Originally by: CCP Oveur

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* Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong

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Originally by: Tom Shandy

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Seems you missed the replys on page 3,
The new regions are as they were meant to be.

Originally by: CCP Oveur

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Originally by: Stamm

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The new regions are BROKEN.

There are -

* No Hauler Spawns
* Broken belt rats (flying off at 12KM a second, as if they 'bounced')
* Broken exploration sites (more so than other space)
* Broken asteroids
* Broken rewards for belt rats (mineral price crash caused by new region ratting)
* No static complexes
* Lack of tritanium/pyerite - no loot refines to trit, little pyerite, no hauler spawns
* No faction spawns
* No conquerable stations

Some of those are intentional. The drone regions are supposed to be "tougher" than other reasons. No conquerable stations I believe is intentional. No hauler spawns possibly. No gas clouds? Maybe. Lack of tritanium/pyerite, maybe?

But for now the drone regions are less rewarding than other regions, more hassle, and for the most part, simply broken.

This is understandable for new content, and I have every confidence the Developers intend to fix these problems.

But the Developers need to do the following.

* Acknowledge the problems.
* State a priority on them.
* Estimate some kind of timescale.
* Fix them.

This is NOT too much to ask.

There was previously a thread discussing these things, but it has been moved.

Petitions have been tried - no response. To my knowledge there has been no Developer response on these issues. One is needed. Many, many alliances use the new regions.

Please, CCP, respond.

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The new regions are as they are supposed to be. They were never supposed to be "tougher" themselves, they were supposed to be built up by players, which requires logistics which is tougher. If we go through it item for item:

* No Hauler Spawns - Intentional
* Broken belt rats (flying off at 12KM a second, as if they 'bounced') Bugreport it
* Broken exploration sites (more so than other space) Should be fixed in 1.4
* Broken asteroids Should be fixed now, the reseeding was wrong
* Broken rewards for belt rats Intentional
* No static complexes Intentional
* Lack of tritanium/pyerite Intentional
* No faction spawns Intentional
* No conquerable stations Intentional

If you don't like it there, there are about 5000 other solar systems which you can go for.

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Originally by: Martosh Toma

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They said, it is intentional as it is.
They said if you do not like it there leave.

You say, but it still needs fixing.
How can we get them to do our bidding?

CCP looks at tread
CCP looks at system/constelation/region occupants and activety

CCP Conclusion: The players may complain a little, but it looks like the systems are buisiness as usual, all must be wel.

As I see it you can only make 1 statement, and that is to empty the region(s). as things are now, you are proving the regions are fine by living there. Somehow the risk vs reward scale must be matching up for you.

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Originally by: CCP TomB

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Dear friends and foes of Rogue Drones. We have been on this issue for quite a time, which has been split into a history of multiple issues that have delayed .

• Asteroids in 8 new regions arn't respawning - we spend quite a time looking at code to see if something was preventing these new regions for having asteroids reseeded in quantity, and verifying that it was indeed working as intended.


• Asteroid belts had off-grid stones - this was a general issue with asteroid belts but the 8 new regions had the worst version of this issue. This was fixed a few patches ago.


• The amount of ore in the 8 new regions is less! - yet another issue that didn't make sense to us, the total amount of roids was around the same as for other regions, we spend quite a lot of time looking if big portion of them were "hidden".

Now that we finally found out that #3 was the real issue but in another way; the asteroids are just way smaller than found in other regions, but there are are way more of them.

We didn't think of this being a possible issue at the time being, as we didn't realize that strip miners empty the amount in few seconds while the cycle would be up to 10 minutes.

I must admit I feel stupid not to see the true issue until now and having spend quite a lot of development time into digging holes at wrong locations.

But the good part is that we are going to fix this, might take some time though because asteroids seeding is quite an extensive action.

Feel free to hate me until the fix is out.

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Originally by: Jaikar Isillia

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Originally by: BluPh

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A quick glimpse to the rev2 patch notes reveal some special patches for the drone regions, but:

Plush compound now yields significant amount of tritanium and a decent amount of pyrite. The amount of zydrine has been reduced.

and

Opulent Compound has had its drop chance reduced on Rogue Drones battleships.

Even more cutting our way (even if it's poor) of income... hope the patched things will work as intended or we're doomed

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Oh great with a buff comes a nerf. Thanks CCP.

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Originally by: CCP Prism X

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This didn't happen due to the reseeding. I can say that for certain as our internal servers have the exact same seeding as TQ now has and the rats spawn there. However, I just got confirmation from design that they are aware of this problem and are looking into it. If I get any new information I'll share it with you here but otherwise I'm going back to creating some sensible formation for the new region asteroid belts.

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Originally by: Hammer Judge

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Edited by: Hammer Judge on 17/07/2007 23:18:56
OK. Seems like a fair suggestion.

Does anyone have an up-to-date compilation of issues, that have been reported/verified by more than one poster? If not, anyone with time on their hands want to trawl the past say 10 pages or so and collate one?

If so, perhaps list it here to start, then, create a new thread for each one with a title like [Drone Regions issue] TITLEHERE.

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